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Joined: 2/7/2018 Posts: 855
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Markus, I do think you are right that you are grieving both the loss of your cat and grief over your wife's dementia. Maybe you need to cry to let those emotions out for stress relief. Definitely talking it out & finding ways to destress are helpful to balance the sadness .
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Joined: 12/4/2011 Posts: 20920
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Marcus...how was yesterday?
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Joined: 12/22/2011 Posts: 5462
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I hope you had a pleasantly nutty and thankful Thanksgiving, Markus. Thankful. That Melvin will always be in your life. In your heart. In your mind. That way. You never lose a loved one. A blessing, indeed. --Jim
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I read somewhere that grief doesn’t ever really go away. Rather, the hurt we feel and hold within our souls is like a circle. Now imagine this circle is huge. It overshadows all that we are- our friends, our hobbies, our work, our relatives. As time goes by we build our lives back up around this grief. Does it shrink? Maybe or maybe not but it seems smaller because of everything else that we built around it. The time it takes to build around our grief is very much an individual thing. The grief you feel for you wife left no place for the grief of the cat. It just laid right on top of it and so what? This is ok. You are normal. I sense you might be judging yourself. Maybe you are saying it was just a cat. It wasn’t. It was anothe grief and it hurts. Let it hurt but today do one small thing to build your life around the grief. It could be a walk, a call to a fiend, a cup of tea. It doesn’t matter. Keep building and keep living but never judge yourself.
My mom has Alzheimer’s. I miss her so. I went through a time thinking I shouldn’t feel how I feel. This is the judgment. My pet bird died and I couldn’t get over it. I just let myself be sad. Last weekend I sobbed. Should I be over the grief of my mom? No, I will never not miss her. It’s weird and complex. She is here but not here. She can’t really value me like she did. Doesn’t know what a daughter is. Sometimes I feel guilty just thinking that the worst thing is my fear that I will be like she is now. I think that might be selfish but then I think oh no. It’s normal. No judgment of myself you see. This is hard as hell and we should feel how we feel. Take care.
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Joined: 1/25/2018 Posts: 752
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I know I'm reviving an old, depressing thread, but it has been 3 months since we lost our kitty and I'm still not able to say his name without tears starting. My DW is doing OK with the loss. Occasionally she will say something like "I sure miss having Melvin around". She isn't tearful about the loss. I almost wish I was the one with dementia so I could move on. This post is because I did some cleaning today and found some clumps of his hair. God I miss that cat.
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Joined: 12/22/2011 Posts: 5462
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markus8174 wrote:I know I'm reviving an old, depressing thread, but it has been 3 months since we lost our kitty and I'm still not able to say his name without tears starting. My DW is doing OK with the loss. Occasionally she will say something like "I sure miss having Melvin around". She isn't tearful about the loss. I almost wish I was the one with dementia so I could move on. This post is because I did some cleaning today and found some clumps of his hair. God I miss that cat.
Here’s a sure-fire
way to deal with grief, Markus. Get on with life. Get another cat. When my
Loverboy died, I waited a month or two. And then brought in another cat,
Marcello. Meanwhile, Loverboy’s ashes are in an urn on a book shelf. A reminder
that he’s still with me. When dear sweet wife Jeanne died of Alzheimer’s. After
38 years of marriage. I cultivated a very meaningful loving relationship with
an Italian. That I met on these message boards. Her mother had Alzheimer’s. We live
together much of the year. I’m with Cristina in Sardinia for a couple months in
winter. And she’s with me for summers in Minnesota. For 10 years now. We travel together, too. All
over the world. And when we aren’t together in the flesh, we connect on Skype.
Daily. I simply don’t have time to grieve any more. I suggest you take the same
tack. Starting with a new cat in your life. Get with it, man. Get on with life.
No need to grieve forever. Fall in love. With another cat. Life is for the
living. Meanwhile, fall in love with Melvin’s spirit. You’ll always have your
wife’s spirit to love, too. Go man. Go man. Don’t allow the doldrums to consume
you. Cultivate a love for life, period. You can bounce from one love to another.
Because someone near and dear dies, doesn’t mean you have to die, too. Learn to
take care of yourself. In the right way. Live. Live. There’s always something
to live for. Even in the worst of times. Live for tomorrow. For better times.
It ain’t over until it’s over. --Jim
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Joined: 1/8/2016 Posts: 365
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Markus I know exactly what you mean. Who in the world thinks that you can just replace a pet or loved one like an object! This is a person you love and a pet you love and you can't just get a new one for crying out loud.
I cry for my parents when I'm missing them. I cry for my estranged brother when I miss him. And, I cry for the pets that gave unconditional love when people didn't.
When it came to pets I always had to have a grieving period and just couldn't get another dog right away. We think can I do it again? Can I give my heart knowing that they won't be with me long? And, the answer would be yes. Eventually I would get another dog, but when I chose that next rescue it was in memory of ones we had.
You can't replace the person you lost. But, you can love the people who are in your life now a bit more.
I agree we need to live our lives and be engaged in daily life. We are still here and we have a purpose. But, when we're grieving it's hard to see. The day will come when you can.
Peace to all who grieve
Wendy
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Joined: 12/22/2011 Posts: 5462
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Let’s make a case. For putting life in perspective. Life is
meant to be lived. Lovingly. It’s all right. To mourn. To grieve the loss of a
loved one. If one so chooses. But it’s all right, too. At some point. To adapt
to the loss of a loved one. Maybe by continuing to love the loved one. In a spiritual
form. To quit grieving. To quit
mourning. The physical presence is no more. And instead, it’s time to embrace the
spiritual presence. Which can be even better than the physical. That’s the way
I see it. And maybe that makes me an oddball. By recognizing that I can’t
always have both. Therefore, I settle for the spiritual. Which I find
comforting. I haven’t lost the love for my dear Jeanne or my dear cat Loverboy.
That love still stimulates me. Daily. In spiritual ways. I haven’t really lost
either one of them. They are still very much alive. Inside me. I cherish them.
They are with me all the time. Even when I am pursuing other loves in my life. I
m a lover. A true lover. I can’t help but bring new loves into my life. I am
compelled. My loves are genuine. Not mere objects. They are forever. --Jim
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Happiness is a chosen state of mind. --Jim
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Well, I guess different people handle grieving in different ways. When my Cookie passes, I would like to buy a Siberian cat (I think Cookie is partly Siberian, or something hairy).
Right now, I'm not allowed to get another cat....because Cookie would be very upset about that. She's the Queen.
Anyway, Markus, did you save the bunch of fur? I was looking online for charms or jewelry that can hold fur, but I can't find it. I thought I saw something like that somewhere....all I see is jewelry or memorial art that can include ashes...I plan to do that with Cookie's ashes.
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ruthmendez wrote:Well, I guess different people handle grieving in different ways. When my Cookie passes, I would like to buy a Siberian cat (I think Cookie is partly Siberian, or something hairy).
Right now, I'm not allowed to get another cat....because Cookie would be very upset about that. She's the Queen.
Anyway, Markus, did you save the bunch of fur? I was looking online for charms or jewelry that can hold fur, but I can't find it. I thought I saw something like that somewhere....all I see is jewelry or memorial art that can include ashes...I plan to do that with Cookie's ashes.
Ruth- nope, didn't save the fur. Just finding it put me in tears for a couple of days. Having a specially made memento to throw me into tears every day for who knows how long seems counterproductive. There is no way I'll ever forget this special cat. It's just that I'm 60 years old. I've lost a number of pets that were dear to be in my many years. I've just never had so much difficulty moving on.
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I don't cry anymore over lost loves. Does that make me callous? It's more a case of recognizing that I haven't totally lost those loves. They are still alive and with me. In spirit. That's good enough for me. Meanwhile, don't cry for me, Argentina. Better to feel a burst of joy. Let's dance. Like Zorba the Greek. Life is a festival. A celebration. --Jim
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One thing I like about you, Markus. Is that you are an unusual
guy. Capable of grieving. Over Melvin
the cat. For months and months. Gotta admit. I like that about you. You are
letting yourself be you. For as long as you feel like it. Doesn’t embarrass
you. Doesn’t matter what other people think. And you talk about it. Right here
in Musings. Yes, you know how to share your grief. You get a little peeved at
yourself. Occasionally. For the way you’ve handled this. Thinking that maybe there’s
a better way. To be easier on yourself. To take it all in stride. I know that’s easier said than done. But
please know. I admire you. For allowing yourself to fall in love with a cat. That
speaks well for you. Makes you a decent guy. At least in my book. I like the way you've set your values. Your priorities. --Jim
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Joined: 6/12/2016 Posts: 2404
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Markus,
Lighten up on yourself.
Nuts is definitely okay.
Sending you peace.
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Good grief!!! I'm amazed by the prolific number of comments about grieving. It seems to be a hot topic. --Jim
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I have a feeling. That you are learning to grieve less and less, Markus. And getting on with life. Indeed, a good sign. Am I right? It helps to air your grievances, doesn't it? Just plain talking it out. --Jim
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