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waiting for flu to arrive and preparations
alz+
Posted: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:50 AM
Joined: 9/12/2013
Posts: 3560


The corona virus has hit my county in Northern California. I live alone now in small village of mobile homes, everyone over 55 and half of us disabled.

The county has been really good at updates and planning how to get through this as it spreads.

I have found local grocery chain is doing Home Delivery for $5 - it involves ordering online, and after a month of false starts and learning I placed an order. It was painless. Meals on Wheels also comes to this park but I have not yet signed up.

So I thought I would isolate to avoid contact for a month or how long it takes for the threat level to go down. I'm pretty sure my lungs will not survive a solid attack, doing my best to "take care of myself" so I ordered a small freezer online and have groceries being delivered today to last me a long time. I bought cases of Gatorade and canned soup etc to share in case others did not prepare (we have a means at park  to share food or supplies with low income residents without it being personal). Virus Prepper.

Our hospitals are already having healthcare workers in isolation, ICU's full, the lack of a national plan seems crazy.

The recommendation from County has been to stock up on meds (most people are not allowed to get a med ahead of time so?) and stay home from work, wash hands etc. A year ago I went through the flu alone after a shingles attack, and I am again recovering from shingles now, so weakened.

Does anyone have a plan to endure a week or more of intense illness? Esp those of us on our own. 

After breathing smoke from wildfires last year and still coughing after that I am not sure I will survive this if I get it. If my "prepping" does not spare me, there will be food for others left.

Hoping all of us stay safe and do what we can to help others. 

love and courage*

*wish I could express how much those 2 principles have helped me survive this long







Michael Ellenbogen
Posted: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 1:25 PM
Joined: 11/30/2011
Posts: 3400


That is great to be prepared. I already know a few of my fiends you have been touched by this virus. I am praying for them. 


Iris L.
Posted: Thursday, March 12, 2020 1:12 PM
Joined: 12/15/2011
Posts: 16563


You are right to be concerned, Alz+.  I had a friend who took these precautions every winter to avoid contagious illness.  She was prescient.  I loaded up on cat food, later today I will buy food for myself.  Handwashing and wiping down surfaces and avoiding  sick people and crowds will be big helps.  I like that you were able to order your groceries online.  That should be a big help too.  


You seem to be settling in to your mobile home community.  That's great!  Good for you!  Take care and stay well!


Iris


eaglemom
Posted: Friday, March 13, 2020 8:32 AM
Joined: 3/7/2012
Posts: 2546


As always, its good to hear from you alz+. I think your plan sounds excellent. Ordering groceries on line can be challenging, until you figure it out. (Most on line grocery stores have a 'previously purchased' column. So you can look through that and reorder from past orders.)

Sharing what you have with others less fortunate shows your tender heart. Report in again, many of us look forward to your updates.

eagle


Jo C.
Posted: Friday, March 13, 2020 12:56 PM
Joined: 12/9/2011
Posts: 11099


Hello dear Alz+, it is good to hear your voice.   You have done an excellent job of preparing for eventualities and getting groceries delivered is a very good plan.

As for the meds, many insurance companies are now permitting a larger supply of meds passed 30 days; some are dispensing for as long as 90 days; it depends on the company - it also takes a doctor's prescription for the larger amount of meds which we can do by telephone to the doctor's office.

CVS Drugstore made an announcement yesterday that they will deliver prescriptions during this time; if you use them, I would call and check first to ensure they are indeed doing that.  Some insurances have mail order prescriptions but it takes about ten days or so to get the meds once the prescriptions are sent in by the physician's office.   Good to have a longer supply.

In the meantime, here is a really touching video showing the beautifully indomitable human spirit in the face of the coronavirus lockdown in Italy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDu_kLJ-5Mk

Please let us know how it is going and how you are doing, we sure will be thinking of you.

J.


alz+
Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:14 AM
Joined: 9/12/2013
Posts: 3560


things have gone to the dangerous place already.

Nursing homes and assisted living places are losing patients (residents) and employees, the homes have no test kits to say what people died of even though it is obvious so numbers are kept low.

In Sonoma County we can not now even walk dogs without danger of spreading virus or contracting virus.

The for profit health care system is collapsing.

I feel like I should be doing something to prepare to die at home without the body stinking up the place but I don't know what to do. 

The real expectation as health care system breaks down is we will be on lockdown for over a year. Prisoners are going to die, many have never even been convicted of anything.  Guards are refusing to go back. No way people are going to keep low paying jobs in nursing homes, even before this hit a neighbor died after being in a nursing home that was, according to him, "filthy and miserable, no help when you call for help." He came home emaciated barely able to speak.

Those were same conditions in 2000 Florida where my Dad was put - so nothing has improved.

I am trying not to be thrown off board but at this point we better all wake up to reality.

Dementia patients can't ask for help. My heart is breaking. 

Habib has our dog as he has fenced yard. His chances of getting virus are high and his health would likely not last long once he is infected. 

I have been through blizzards, wildfires, shingles, heat waves, and nervous breakdowns.  Only to come to this. When I order groceries I will keep ordering extra canned and fresh stuff to share here. I told people if they are too sick to keep their pet I will take the dog while they recover but that is not allowed now.

Our emergency teams are well rehearsed and have set up places to recover and I wish I could do more. Not getting infected is all I can strive for in hopes when this passes I can be of help then.

My son and daughter are also doing Shelter in Place, their work from home is short term. 

sending love and courage to everyone. 



alz+
Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:25 AM
Joined: 9/12/2013
Posts: 3560


I don't have my list of DO NOT TAKE DRUGS for people with dementia

The anti inflammatory over the counter stuff (except Tylenol?) are being investigated for fueling the virus. Steroids were found to kill people in China when they were treated with it. 

this virus symptoms:

fever cough  exhaustion  muscle pain  

if it takes hold in lungs - pneumonia will make it difficult to get a breath.

That would normally be when you would go to hospital for help, but hospitals are not set up for a pandemic, ICU wards are too small and lacking respirators, and soon staff will be even smaller.

If any one here has knowledge and ability to post help regarding the situation - now is the time to share it.

this is expected to go on for months...may some good come from the horror.





Michael Ellenbogen
Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:29 AM
Joined: 11/30/2011
Posts: 3400


Take a deep breath, and take another. You know me I tell it like it is. As long as you stay home and continue to odder your food online all will be well. A good friend of mine who had diabetes and 77 just sent thru it with very mild symptoms. Just try to keep your self relaxed and calm. You are a survivor so this thing does not stand a chance with you. 


alz+
Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 12:10 PM
Joined: 9/12/2013
Posts: 3560


hit this morning with fever and shakes.

was sweating yesterday, no fever.

I give up.

love you all!


Unforgiven
Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 12:24 PM
Joined: 1/28/2013
Posts: 2661


Alz, the advice to refrain from NSAIDS is because they lower fever, and raising temperature is one of the body's defenses for fighting ofv viruses and bacteria. That is until fever rises high enough to cause seizures.  Common sense.

There is a Youtube channel run by a British doctor who gives excellent information and advice about the virus.  I will attempt to go there and bring back the link.  I highly recommend him.  His name is Dr. John Campbell and that is the name of his channel, since I find myself unable to paste the link.

Here in Wisconsin we aren't on the sort of lockdown I'm hearing about in California, but we are asked to voluntarily practice social distancing.  The schools are closed indefinitely, and restaurants have had their capacity lowered so patrons are not crammed together.  I haven't been out for a week, so I don't know how badly our grocery shelves are depleted.

I suggest you set up a time each day where you communicate each day with your daughter, so that if you don't she will know you are in need of help.

Edit: Your latest post came while I was off finding the link.  Another important symptom of the COVID-19 flu is a non-productive cough.  That is one thing I learned from Dr. Campbell.  Embrace the fever, keep warm, drink lots of fluids -- that Gatorade should come in handy.  Let your daughter know you are ill.  And above all don't let go of your hope and courage.


Iris L.
Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 2:30 PM
Joined: 12/15/2011
Posts: 16563


Alz+, even though COVid-19 affects olders adults more harshly, more survive than succumb.  Follow the recommendations as Unforgiven says.  No one knows the outcome.  We're taking this day - by - day.


Iris 


Jo C.
Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:10 PM
Joined: 12/9/2011
Posts: 11099


Very good advice here; another suggestion, do not watch too much TV news; just enough once or twice a day to stay informed; but to watch for hours is not healthy.  News channels do present news, but often they strive to hype up information as that keeps viewers. The 24 hour news channels are running this into the ground.

If watching TV,  try watching quiet, easy to watch programming instead, it is something to take one's attention off of all the negativity.  Keeping in touch with your daughter each day is a good way to stay connected and to communicate what your needs may be.

Today, a veterinarian specialist spoke on a news program and stated that we cannot give this virus to dogs; so I would not be overly concerned about that. 

We are here for you and the Alzheimer's Assn.24 Hour Helpline at (800) 272-3900 has Care Consultants for support during these uncertain times.

J.