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Immunity waning in Israel
BethL
Posted: Monday, July 26, 2021 12:41 PM
Joined: 3/25/2015
Posts: 860


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNbs4LCgrcY

Sorry that is not a live link. It is "Big US implications from Israel" by Dr. John Campbell on YouTube.

In a nutshell, he talks about how in Israel many or most of the population are fully vaccinated. Now, however, it appears immunity is waning as the vaccine appears to be only 33% effective against preventing infection. However, it is still very highly effective against severe illness and hospitalization. In the U.K., individuals fully vaccinated around the same time as those in Israel have a much higher effectiveness against infection. I believe around 88% (don't quote me, but something like that).  WHY? Reportedly the same vaccine. Dr. Campbell postulates this: In Israel, doses were given 3 weeks apart. In the U.K., more like 11-12 weeks apart. 

This has huge implications for the U.S. as our doses were 3 (Pfizer) or 4 (Moderna) weeks apart. Our immunity may be waning already for those of us vaccinated early this year.   

Ok, that's my explanation but I suggest you watch the video yourself if you are interested. Not good news!!!

p.s.   If you don't like this topic, or don't like the video, or don't care, or hate the idea of being vaccinated, please just scroll on by rather than leaving a negative comment, as I am just trying to share information I felt was relevant.

 


Jo C.
Posted: Monday, July 26, 2021 1:18 PM
Joined: 12/9/2011
Posts: 11948


Thank you Beth; it is very important to stay informed from credible sources; greatly appreciate.

J.


Ed1937
Posted: Monday, July 26, 2021 4:41 PM
Joined: 4/2/2018
Posts: 4515


Thanks for posting. Hot link Big US implications from Israel 
BethL
Posted: Monday, July 26, 2021 7:35 PM
Joined: 3/25/2015
Posts: 860


Thanks, Ed.
Crushed
Posted: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:53 AM
Joined: 2/2/2014
Posts: 6691


data is still evolving

On Thursday, Israel's health ministry released preliminary data suggesting that, while the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine remains very effective at preventing severe Covid-19, it may be losing effectiveness against milder cases of the disease.

 

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2021/07/26/vaccine-effectiveness


  
  

https://www.israel21c.org/covid-and-pfizer-what-has-israel-discovered-so-far/

it is useful to recall that "immunity" is used in two different ways
1)immunity from infection 
2) immunity form serious illness or dying. 

Since infection can be asymptomatic our knowledge of Immunity on #1 depends on how much testing we do.  That makes it very complicated.   So far very few vaccinated people have ended up in the hospital or dying, but we only have 6 months expereience. 


 
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